Podcasting A to Z was the start of it all for me becoming a thought leader in my industry. It was 2013 and I was struggling with blogging and the early days of social media when I came across Cliff and his Podcasting A to Z course. It was a huge investment at the time but I pledged and made it work. Now, nearly 650 episodes of my podcast later, it is still going strong. It was the first podcast in the short term rental world (there are now over 150) and has been the foundation of everything for me. At the core of it all, Cliff has been there as a mentor through listening to so many of his other shows, and with my year as a member of his Next Level Mastermind.
Dec. 13, 2025 by Heather Bayer on Apple Podcasts